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RS Motorsport :: Classic Speed Restored • View topic - Meet my Mk1
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Re: Meet my Mk1

PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 9:18 am
by ozstang65
If they're superpro ones they should be OK. There's a red style of bush that crumbles with age too.

Re: Meet my Mk1

PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 10:40 am
by phileep
Just got off the phone with Bilstein in Victoria, the shocks I have are for the standard ride height, and they are the correct shock for the Mk1 Escort, so thats good news.

If the lower spring on the drivers side were to blame, I would have though that this scenario would help prevent the wheel from picking up in hard right hand corners not the other way around. But I don't know what I'm talking about.

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Re: Meet my Mk1

PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 3:10 pm
by jsa
I see you have a thickish full length extra leaf. That will contribute picking up a wheel when cornered hard.

With new bushes and shocks it probably corners a bit harder than before?

Re: Meet my Mk1

PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 7:15 pm
by ozstang65
The front springs may need to be a bit stiffer.

Re: Meet my Mk1

PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 8:07 pm
by phileep
That is a good point, I assumed that the springs were the standard. Ill have to worry about the arse end later.

Out with the old
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Freshen up the wheel arches.
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Re: Meet my Mk1

PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 8:12 pm
by phileep
Very excited to get these in.

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Re: Meet my Mk1

PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 8:57 pm
by phileep
The rubber boots on the old lower control arms were shot even though the ball joints seemed alright, but freshies were cheap. New poly bushes in the arms and new ones for the sway bar. All the bushes in the front end were one spirited drive away from looking like the rear ones.

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I cleaned up and painted the sway bar that was on the car. Its a 20mm bar, standard for a 1300XL or something else? I wish I had a before shot, it was a red, with about 40 years of overspray on it, some tar and what looked like wall render.

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Re: Meet my Mk1

PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2015 11:42 am
by phileep
I've been trying to find new bolts for the lower control arm to the cross member. The shank on the ones I've found is slightly shorter than the original bolts. The taper at the end of the shank just seats into the other side of the cross member without going the whole way through. I'm concerned the thread will be taking the load. Risk it or keep hunting for a better bolt?

Its a 3/8" bolt, the original item had a 50mm shank. New one has a shank that 46mm to the beginning of the taper, then the taper is an additional 2mm. Feels like the 2mm might be a problem.

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Re: Meet my Mk1

PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2015 1:08 pm
by jsa
That new bolt is not unf.

Get unf bolts for it.

When tight the sleeve inside the bush pulls tight to the X/M, so it's not an issue.

Re: Meet my Mk1

PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2015 6:38 pm
by phileep

Re: Meet my Mk1

PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2015 7:06 pm
by Danny M
Those studs will work but I woud look at the 12x1.5mm studs instead of the smaller 7/16" unf
If it was me and it had a 1300 in it I would just stick a decent set of pads in a P16//m16 Escort caliper
How much hp are you looking at going to?

Re: Meet my Mk1

PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2015 7:24 pm
by phileep
Ultimately I want to go to a 2.0L Duratec. Do the M/P 16 callipers bolt straight on? Would that use the standard capri disks, 245mm?

Re: Meet my Mk1

PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2015 8:02 pm
by ozstang65
The capri calipers will bolt straight on as the hole in them is imperial. If you are using a Mk2 Escort caliper you will need a special stepped bolt (metric caliper hole to imperial strut). We actually made a very thin spacer tube and used the original capri bolt. I do track work in my car and it just runs a spaced Mk2 caliper/vented capri disk with Bendix Ultimate pads.

Re: Meet my Mk1

PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2015 8:11 pm
by ozstang65
The wheel studs I ended up with are , mainly to match the studs that were already on the diff. I'm pretty sure the hubs I have are the same as yours, they will need drilling/reaming to suit.

Re: Meet my Mk1

PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2015 8:20 pm
by phileep
I have some Girling callipers that were on the Mk1 struts, would they be M/P 16? If they bolt straight onto the capri struts I would happily reuse to get the car moving again. Do you have a part number for the rotors that you're using? Are they slotted or anything fancy?

Re: Meet my Mk1

PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2015 8:42 pm
by ozstang65
I'm pretty sure the original Mk1 discs were smaller, so the caliper isn't the same.

The vented discs bolt straight to the capri or Mk2 hub:
Vented Discs - Plain
Capri 2.8i, EBC part = D246, same as RDA7578

Re: Meet my Mk1

PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:19 pm
by phileep
Thanks for the info. At this point I would have to buy new capri callipers, rotors etc. Its why the kits are so appealing. I would have loved if my Mk1 callipers fit.

Re: Meet my Mk1

PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 11:38 am
by phileep
Does anyone know the bolt spec for attaching capri steering arms to the capri style struts? I bought a set of steering arms online that came with a set of what appears to be M10 bolts. The bolts fit perfectly in one arm, the second arm has slightly smaller holes and the supplied bolts wont fit.

The M10 bolts also don't fit through the holes in the strut, I'm not sure if this is because there is fairly thick paint in the holes or if im going mad. So far the supplied bolts only fit through 1 steering arm. I don't want to drill out the struts and the second arm if it turns out I have the wrong bolts and 1 steering arm that has been incorrectly machined.

Cheers,

Re: Meet my Mk1

PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 8:32 pm
by jsa
3/8 unf

Re: Meet my Mk1

PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 9:09 am
by phileep
Cheers!

After clearing the paint from the holes in the strut and putting some fresh 3/8 bolts though - I'm concerned that there is a fair bit of slop in the steering arms. The 3/8 hole in the strut locates the bolt beautifully snug, basically no play in the bolt what so ever. Putting the steering arm on and its a hot dog down a hall way situation. Even the arm that fits an M10 bolt is sloppy (with the M10) so you can imagine what its like with a 3/8 bolt.

This isn't normal surely? These arms have been poorly machined. This feels like that last place where you would want any play.

Options:
I don't want to modify the strut, then it becomes non standard - The idea of modifying an expensive part to work with a poorly made, comparatively cheaper part doesn't thrill me.

[*]New Steering Arms
[*]Have the bolt holes in the steering arms drilled out and have a sleeve pressed in to take up the slack
[*]Install them and try not to think about it every time I turn in

Thoughts?