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Interesting Exhaust Design with exhaust evacuation/booster
Posted:
Tue May 22, 2012 11:48 am
by Matt1975
Hi Guys,
I have been in contact with Dave Carpenter in the USA who races Pro 4 Series speedway car powered by a 2.0 Pinto making around 230 odd hp. (
http://www.secordmotorsports.com/) to pick his brain on a few things and he sent me a few pics on this exhaust system he is playing around with.
To Quote Dave "Matt..... the pic's are a header system designed/run on a 2.0L Pinto road engine up here in the States. Note the last picture. An exhaust evacuation/booster device we designed in order to pull a vacuum inside a wet-sump engine. Installed inside the 3" header collector. We'll have some actual vacuum number's on the engine in about 1 month. Pass the pic's around down there..... if you like."
Any comments would be great. I have sent this thread link to Dave so I'm sure he'd be happy to answer any questions.
Here's a few pics.
Cheers,
Matt
Re: Interesting Exhaust Design with exhaust evacuation/boost
Posted:
Tue May 22, 2012 2:14 pm
by mickas
Isn't that in David Vizards book??
Re: Interesting Exhaust Design with exhaust evacuation/boost
Posted:
Tue May 22, 2012 3:30 pm
by Matt1975
Maybe, had a quick look but couldn't find it though.
I assume you'd need some sort of one way valve to stop back pressure from the exhaust pressurising the block.
Matt
Re: Interesting Exhaust Design with exhaust evacuation/boost
Posted:
Tue May 22, 2012 5:29 pm
by Jimmy Hiddlestone
Vizard's was different, angle cut pipe below collectors in a zero restriction system to provide crank case vaccum; this on seems to have a full Venturi design, will be interesting to see what inHg it can pull down.....
Re: Interesting Exhaust Design with exhaust evacuation/boost
Posted:
Tue May 22, 2012 5:54 pm
by Matt1975
I have read a few of his other posts and the design has been based on the webber sidedraft aux-venturi.
From here -
http://speedtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=24874Cheers
Matt
Re: Interesting Exhaust Design with exhaust evacuation/boost
Posted:
Wed May 23, 2012 12:08 am
by Danny M
Can't be used in events in Australia or on a street car
Re: Interesting Exhaust Design with exhaust evacuation/boost
Posted:
Wed May 23, 2012 8:04 am
by Matt1975
Why's that?
Matt
Re: Interesting Exhaust Design with exhaust evacuation/boost
Posted:
Wed May 23, 2012 9:21 am
by Danny M
Cause it will dump oil all over the road if the engine plays up
Re: Interesting Exhaust Design with exhaust evacuation/boost
Posted:
Wed May 23, 2012 8:09 pm
by gen mk 1rs2000
Re: Interesting Exhaust Design with exhaust evacuation/boost
Posted:
Thu May 24, 2012 12:19 am
by Danny M
Steve there is more to Steve's issue than meets the eye lets just wait till the bottom end turns up
Re: Interesting Exhaust Design with exhaust evacuation/boost
Posted:
Thu May 24, 2012 9:17 pm
by rs turbo
Re: Interesting Exhaust Design with exhaust evacuation/boost
Posted:
Thu May 24, 2012 10:21 pm
by Warren Heath
Re: Interesting Exhaust Design with exhaust evacuation/boost
Posted:
Thu May 24, 2012 10:23 pm
by Danny M
LOLOL
Re: Interesting Exhaust Design with exhaust evacuation/boost
Posted:
Fri May 25, 2012 8:12 am
by Matt1975
The guys in the states a sort of one way valve to stop this happening.
Matt
Re: Interesting Exhaust Design with exhaust evacuation/boost
Posted:
Fri May 25, 2012 9:23 am
by Warren Heath
Re: Interesting Exhaust Design with exhaust evacuation/boost
Posted:
Fri May 25, 2012 9:24 am
by Matt1975
Right,
Matt
Re: Interesting Exhaust Design with exhaust evacuation/boost
Posted:
Tue May 29, 2012 12:35 am
by Matt1975
The complete exhaust/booster evacuation system used on the wet-sump 2.0L Pinto is as follows. The vent output at the block on the lower left side. Drill/tap/install a short section of pipe with (2) thin metal 45-degree oil baffles cut/welded into the pipe side. The baffles opposite each other. The stock baffle inside the block should also remain. Then a short section of hose off the pipe & into a 3"x4" 'oil separator' pipe mounted under the intake manifold. End plates welded on each end. The baffle-side input fitting placed low on the end plate or under the pipe. The output fitting placed high on the end plate. Internally, the separator filled with coarse/wooly steel wool for good oil separation. And the low input fitting will permit oil draindown back into the block lower case. The anti-backfire valve mounted at the high oil separator output fitting. Hose from the anti-valve to the booster evac in the header collector. The top of the engine vented off the valve cover to a 1-quart vent can, mounted even/higher with the valve cover, and a pod-filter atop the vent can. A good sized vacuum/boost gauge attached to the dip-stick tube. The vacuum value should be no more than 8"-10" at max operating engine rpm. If the vacuum is too high, a drilled 'pill' installed in the line between the collector and the anti-valve. Vacuum too low? A drilled 'pill' installed in the vent line between the valve cover & vent can. It can require a bit of time to discover the proper sized hole to use in the 'pill' for the amount of vacuum desired. -Dave-
Re: Interesting Exhaust Design with exhaust evacuation/boost
Posted:
Sat Nov 24, 2012 11:36 am
by Matt1975
Have been emailing Dave Capenter every now and then and they finished off the exhaust.
To quote Dave "The addition of the properly tuned exhaust pictured, and a re-jetting of the carb with the new exhaust, added 23HP to the engine". I beleive they were already getting 200+ hp so that is pretty impressive. 10%.
Cheers,
Matt
Re: Interesting Exhaust Design with exhaust evacuation/boost
Posted:
Mon Nov 26, 2012 2:55 pm
by Matt1975
Couple of pics of the exhaust in a Mercury Capri. Very nice indeed.
Matt
Re: Interesting Exhaust Design with exhaust evacuation/boost
Posted:
Mon Nov 26, 2012 2:55 pm
by Matt1975
One from outside